4WD or 2WD

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dettol1
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Re: 4WD or 2WD

Post by dettol1 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:31 am

One thing I've noticed on my fwd dsg Tiguan is that it tends to spin the wheels when starting from an uphill position. Our polo dsg does the same, so I don't know if it is a fwd or a dsg issue. I'm taking about totally dry roads. Of course traction control kicks in, just it's a bit annoying.

My old Audi Quattro even with worn out tyres didn't spin at all.


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Re: 4WD or 2WD

Post by Wolfsburger » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:19 am

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do Land Rover even sell a car that isn't 4WD it is pretty much their brand selling point.

The real question I would say is if 4WD is so great for safety why do all cars not have it?
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1. Auto express (not me) says...
"Can a manufacturer famous for its 4x4 models repeat its success with front-wheel drive? We took an early drive in the Range Rover Evoque 2WD, the cheapest and most efficient model in the range, to find out...
The arrival of two-wheel drive Evoque is a welcome one, especially if fuel economy and CO2 emissions savings are important to you.
...while overall it feels more like a hatchback than an SUV to drive."

There we are ... A cheap and green "Land Rover"

2.. see above. Not cheap, not green. :D

All down to Personal choices, one way or another?
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Re: 4WD or 2WD

Post by CNC » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:55 am

dettol1 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:31 am
One thing I've noticed on my fwd dsg Tiguan is that it tends to spin the wheels when starting from an uphill position. Our polo dsg does the same, so I don't know if it is a fwd or a dsg issue. I'm taking about totally dry roads. Of course traction control kicks in, just it's a bit annoying.

My old Audi Quattro even with worn out tyres didn't spin at all.
I guess it depends on the gradient of the slope, very steep by the sounds of it. It's not something I've ever had a problem with in any DSG fwd car.
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Re: 4WD or 2WD

Post by dettol1 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:25 am

Wasn't really steep, could be just the roads here in Greece are slippery. Definitely no more than 5% "steepness"


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Re: 4WD or 2WD

Post by Still Game » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:03 am

The same thing happens to me, even sat at a roundabout or lights and I want to get away quick, wet or dry it's the same result

In my quattros I could floor it and away I go, I feel I have to be a good bit more reserved with the throttle in these instances now

Which is kinda shite 😭


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Re: 4WD or 2WD

Post by Jeremy_SWE » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:22 am

dettol1 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:31 am
One thing I've noticed on my fwd dsg Tiguan is that it tends to spin the wheels when starting from an uphill position. Our polo dsg does the same, so I don't know if it is a fwd or a dsg issue. I'm taking about totally dry roads. Of course traction control kicks in, just it's a bit annoying.

My old Audi Quattro even with worn out tyres didn't spin at all.
If I remember correctly, Quattro is a Torsen AWD which has 50/50 distribution of power to front and rear axles, whereas 4Motion uses Haldex 95% Fwd distribution until AWD is needed.
So 4Motion will probably have a slight delay before the system realises that power has to be distributed to the rear wheels too, resulting in the spin.
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Re: 4WD or 2WD

Post by xtrailman » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:41 am

Jeremy_SWE wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:22 am
dettol1 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:31 am
One thing I've noticed on my fwd dsg Tiguan is that it tends to spin the wheels when starting from an uphill position. Our polo dsg does the same, so I don't know if it is a fwd or a dsg issue. I'm taking about totally dry roads. Of course traction control kicks in, just it's a bit annoying.

My old Audi Quattro even with worn out tyres didn't spin at all.
If I remember correctly, Quattro is a Torsen AWD which has 50/50 distribution of power to front and rear axles, whereas 4Motion uses Haldex 95% Fwd distribution until AWD is needed.
So 4Motion will probably have a slight delay before the system realises that power has to be distributed to the rear wheels too, resulting in the spin.
If you look at the VW website the generation 5 system is described it has 10% to the rears at all times with nearly 100% if required.


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Re: 4WD or 2WD

Post by dettol1 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:41 am

Yes but my Tiguan is ONLY FWD, so the rear never kicks in :)


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Re: 4WD or 2WD

Post by Jeremy_SWE » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:50 am

dettol1 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:41 am
Yes but my Tiguan is ONLY FWD, so the rear never kicks in :)
Haha, that would have something to do with it.
But comparing a great AWD system like Quattro, even with worn tyres, isn’t comparable in my opinion.
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Re: 4WD or 2WD

Post by Jeremy_SWE » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:58 am

xtrailman wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:41 am
Jeremy_SWE wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:22 am
dettol1 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:31 am
One thing I've noticed on my fwd dsg Tiguan is that it tends to spin the wheels when starting from an uphill position. Our polo dsg does the same, so I don't know if it is a fwd or a dsg issue. I'm taking about totally dry roads. Of course traction control kicks in, just it's a bit annoying.

My old Audi Quattro even with worn out tyres didn't spin at all.
If I remember correctly, Quattro is a Torsen AWD which has 50/50 distribution of power to front and rear axles, whereas 4Motion uses Haldex 95% Fwd distribution until AWD is needed.
So 4Motion will probably have a slight delay before the system realises that power has to be distributed to the rear wheels too, resulting in the spin.
If you look at the VW website the generation 5 system is described it has 10% to the rears at all times with nearly 100% if required.
Ok, cheers.
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